>Scott MacMillan at November 28, 2003 04:28 AM

Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when government's puposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to reject invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal - well-meaning, but without understanding.

Posted by: David Nieporent at November 28, 2003 10:36 PM

Lloyd, Crank -- For what it's worth, all the other people commenting here lived more than five years apiece in Central Europe, detest Communism actively (Ben even fought the commies in court, and won!), and probably all can be described as free traders who don't have much time for actual socialism.

Matt - Just saw this comment, and I'll leave my response for you to read when you return . . . be fair, here. I didn't say anything above to disagree with your reading of Klaus (I do, in fact, defer to your experience on that one), or even to defend his comparison of the EU to Communism. All I said is, if you're going to take on Klaus or any other critic of the EU, just be a bit more balanced and up front about the fact that the EU does, in fact, present a real long-term threat to both liberty and democracy in Europe because of the absence of checks on the Brussels elite's gradual accumulation of powers. Going ad hominem on me (the whole 'we've been there, you haven't' schtick) is totally unwarranted.

Posted by: Crank at December 1, 2003 10:17 AM

Crank -- Because of obscure computer troubles, my long, thoughtful answer to your comment cannot be posted, so I'll condense: 1) it was an info tip, not an ad hominem; 2) the point of my post is actually not about the EU.

Posted by: Matt Welch at December 7, 2003 09:47 AM

Matt -- Understood.

Posted by: Crank at December 8, 2003 07:57 PM
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