October 01, 2003

'Have you ever had a man sl...

'Have you ever had a man slide his tongue in your ass?' Ladies and gentlemen ... your next governor! Puts a whole new spin on Arnold's decision to mine the Twisted Sister archive for official campaign theme song.

Posted by at October 1, 2003 10:58 PM
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Hey, oral sex between the sexes has become about as stigmatized as a friggin' hand-shake. Analingus ain't far behind in getting similar status. Lickin' ass will just be par for the course.

Though, I'm still not sure how either practice comports with the natural law.

Posted by: Robert at October 2, 2003 02:15 AM

As my friend Charlie (settle down, Matt, not Old Man Hornberger)once said, "I don't like having my ass licked 'cause I'm gay. I like it 'cause it feels good."

Posted by: Scott at October 2, 2003 08:26 AM

I think the most telling line of the article is the last one.

"'...if Arnold laughed, the whole table laughed.'"

In other words, Arnold would do it, thought it was funny, and no one would scold him for it.

Posted by: Chris Howell at October 2, 2003 08:33 AM

SacBee's Dan Weintraub (http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/insider/) reports that Arnold has responded with a broad apology and acknowledgement that "Where there is smoke there is fire. I have sometimes behaved badly."

Posted by: Incumbent at October 2, 2003 10:56 AM

His "apology" is pathetic. He's basically saying that while the Times article is wrong, without giving specifics, he's telling voters that they don't the half of it. He would have been better off keeping his mouth shut.

Posted by: Steve Smith at October 2, 2003 11:38 AM

Well, I want to know: had she ever had a man do that? The Times left me hanging!

Posted by: paul at October 2, 2003 12:00 PM

What started out sounding like it could be a long-shot hit job strung together from anonymous sources and a couple of wackos ended up giving you the feeling you really knew Arnold... and didn't like him.

In the current environment, when pundits assume a hidden agenda behind everything that's reported, the facts about Arnold's arrgogance and abusiveness took courage to pursue and publish.

Posted by: henry at October 2, 2003 12:27 PM

And people say romance is dead.

Posted by: Emily at October 2, 2003 12:56 PM

You think Maria indulges him that way?

Posted by: Dee at October 2, 2003 01:34 PM

Pardon me? It took courage for three reporters to basically copy a Premiere article and take 7 weeks to come up with this ancient nonsense, and mention at the end, oh by the way, it looks like he's cleaned up his act in recent years?

Uh yeah. Whatever.

Posted by: HH at October 2, 2003 06:55 PM

But... but... but where has that tongue been?

Posted by: Hoodie Craw at October 2, 2003 09:08 PM

I think I like Arnold better now.

Posted by: Paul at October 2, 2003 10:47 PM

Really?

Posted by: henry at October 3, 2003 03:47 AM

No, just going against the grain for the hell of it.

Posted by: Paul at October 3, 2003 12:22 PM

Just came back from Arnold event, at a Latino-owned business in Santa Clarita. To honor the occasion, instead of playing Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It," the campaign blasted a bunch of Gypsy Kings songs. Cuz we know if there's one thing Latino Californians just L-O-V-E, it's annoying Basque music. Then, when he was asked by a Latino business owner about what he was doing specifically to woo Latino votes, Arnold went on and on about how he loves the hard work of Latinos, which is why he made four movies in Mexico, and they did great at the box office.

Well, at least he's an arse-licker!

Posted by: Matt Welch at October 3, 2003 01:38 PM

I really hope Californians aren't going to reward this creep. Conservatives would immediately reveal a depth of hypocrisy previously unthinkable if they do this.

Today's LA Times story has more allegations, including a threat of rape during the 70s. This guy by all appearances spent that entire decade in a 'roid rage, and hasn't particularly changed in the ensuing decades.

Whether his wife will roll over like Hillary for such behavior, I'd bet most people would be looking for a bat if someone treated their wife, sister, or friend in the way this wannabe governor treats whoever falls in his sights. Remember that a smear usually involves some mistruth. This stuff doesn't quite cut it as a smear. And imagine if it had come out *after* the election, like Gray Davis's budget.

Really, you want to explain this jackass to yourselves for the next couple years?

Posted by: Dan at October 3, 2003 02:03 PM

Ok. The guy is running for office.

But I can not count the number of times that I have been walking down the street (wearing clothes) and someone has grabbed my ass, or heckled me.

Another one of my friend's rears was gropped so hard the guy knocked her over (on a city street). Luckily a cop saw that one and threw him in the drunk tank.

Furthermore, some guy ripped my best friend's shirt half off when she came out of a bar.

NONE of this IS OK ... but seriously, if we are going to give this much attention to it at the levle .. why don't we clean up the rest of the populace it really happens EVERY DAY.

Posted by: Melanie at October 3, 2003 04:43 PM

Ok. The guy is running for office.

But I can not count the number of times that I have been walking down the street (wearing clothes) and someone has grabbed my ass, or heckled me.

Another one of my friend's rears was gropped so hard the guy knocked her over (on a city street). Luckily a cop saw that one and threw him in the drunk tank.

Furthermore, some guy ripped my best friend's shirt half off when she came out of a bar.

NONE of this IS OK ... but seriously, if we are going to give this much attention to it at the levle .. why don't we clean up the rest of the populace it really happens EVERY DAY.

Posted by: Melanie at October 3, 2003 04:43 PM

> the campaign blasted a bunch of Gypsy Kings songs. Cuz we know if there's one thing Latino Californians just L-O-V-E, it's annoying Basque music.

I see, I forgot to put on my sombrero before reading your site. Seems like you have us all "Latinos" and our monolithic tastes figured out. If he played musica Norteņa, would you have complained that he wasn't sensitive to the vast majority of Latinos in this country who are not fond of Mexican derived music?

> Then, when he was asked by a Latino business owner about what he was doing specifically to woo Latino votes, Arnold went on and on about how he loves the hard work of Latinos, which is why he made four movies in Mexico, and they did great at the box office.

Sounds much better than what Bustamante does to woo "Latino" voter, by prentending he's an immigrant when he was born in this country. Ironically, the real immigrant is the other guy.

OK, I'm out, going to get that sombrero and a burrito so el patro Matt doesn't disaprove of my non Latino tastes and mannerisms.

Posted by: Augusto at October 3, 2003 11:52 PM

> Today's LA Times story has more allegations, including a threat of rape during the 70s.

Is this the crazy lady that screamed this nonsense at an Arnold event?

Did she go there out of her own volition and was she coached by some group? Somebody please slap me, people can't be so naive can they?

Posted by: Augusto at October 3, 2003 11:54 PM

Augusto -- What in hell does making four movies in Mexico have to do with Latinos living in California, beyond screwing over those who have below-the-line jobs in Hollywood? (not that I give a fig about Runaway Production, mind you.) I agree that Bustamante's positions -- supporting driver's licenses, fighting for bilingual education, etc. -- are themselves bad, but I wasn't talking about a Bustamante rally, was I? I just thought it was odd and disappointing that Arnold thought it was remotely relevant or interesting to Californians that those he hired in foreign countries had a nice work ethic.

And nice try with the Matt's-trying-to-fit-all-Latinos-under-the-same-sombrero turnabout, but the strain is showing. It was Arnie, not me, who equated California Latinos with Mexicans living in Mexico, and chose to substitute his normal theme song with Europe's favorite flamenco act. I just found it funny; also, I detest the Gipsy Kings.

Posted by: Matt Welch at October 4, 2003 10:24 AM

Looks like Augusto touched a nerve...

Posted by: Ernesto at October 4, 2003 12:18 PM

Is it more disturbing that the guy plays grabass or that the women, instead of pressing charges or asking for an apology on the spot when the incidents occurred, waited upwards of twenty years to tell their stories anonymously to a newspaper just days before an election? Is it more disturbing that a guy has no respect for women, or that the women had more care and respect for their careers than they did for themselves? And if someone doesn't respect themselves, then why should they expect to be respected by anyone else? And why should we respect someone who has no respect for others?

Friends, the answer is obvious: Marey Carey for Governer!

Posted by: Pablo at October 4, 2003 01:27 PM

Hey Matt, thanks for this link. I didn't actually read the LAT story until I saw your post with the nasty headline. The reports of the LAT story I'd read made it sound like routine sexual harassment women put up with all the time. But I think the LAT story makes a case that what Arnold did was something more than that. Also, I think it's perfectly understandable that these women wouldn't feel compelled to go on the record until now -- when it looks like the guy has a really good shot of becoming governor in a few days. Think Anita Hill.

However, I do think the LAT could do itself a favor by fully explaining how a story like this develops without the aide of dirty tricksters. I think it may be entirley legitimate, but it's not going to do the LAT team any good if it doesn't come out until November in some industry journal. They should issue a statement today since the credibility of their story has become one of the main issues of an election only two days away. More thoughts from me here.

Posted by: Amy Langfield at October 5, 2003 09:27 AM

I think the hypocrisy is incredibly disturbing from those embracing these mostly-anonymous claims when they automatically dismissed Juanity Broaddrick's...

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ing that the guy plays grabass or that the women, instead of pressing charges or asking for an apology on the spot when the incidents occurred, waited upwards of twenty years to tell their stories anonymously to a newspaper just days before an election? Is it more disturbing that a guy has no respect for women, or that the women had more care and respect for their careers than they did for themselves? And if someone doesn't respect themselves, then why should they expect to be respected by anyone else? And why should we respect someone who has no respect for others?

Friends, the answer is obvious: Marey Carey for Governer!

Posted by: Pablo at October 4, 2003 01:27 PM

Hey Matt, thanks for this link. I didn't actually read the LAT story until I saw your post with the nasty headline. The reports of the LAT story I'd read made it sound like routine sexual harassment women put up with all the time. But I think the LAT story makes a case that what Arnold did was something more than that. Also, I think it's perfectly understandable that these women wouldn't feel compelled to go on the record until now -- when it looks like the guy has a really good shot of becoming governor in a few days. Think Anita Hill.

However, I do think the LAT could do itself a favor by fully explaining how a story like this develops without the aide of dirty tricksters. I think it may be entirley legitimate, but it's not going to do the LAT team any good if it doesn't come out until November in some industry journal. They should issue a statement today since the credibility of their story has become one of the main issues of an election only two days away. More thoughts from me here.

Posted by: Amy Langfield at October 5, 2003 09:27 AM

I think the hypocrisy is incredibly disturbing from those embracing these mostly-anonymous claims when they automatically dismissed Juanity Broaddrick's...

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