February 27, 2003

Collecting Every 'To-war-or...

Collecting Every 'To-war-or-not-to-war' Post: I've been busy as sin and barely online for several weeks now, but occasionally I've read very compelling, throat-clearing, here's-where-I-stand-on-the-war,-dammit posts by various bloggers (Colby Cosh, Thomas Nephew, Chris Scheer, etc.). I've noticed among both friends and peers a very mixed bag of opinions, many of them intelligent and conflicted. Wouldn't it be nice if someone collected all the best blog-posts of this variety, pro, con and confused? Sure it would! So, please, someone get it together. In the meantime, you can nominate your own mini-essay or someone else's in the comments below.

Posted by at February 27, 2003 12:05 AM
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Here's mine: American War

Posted by: Oliver at February 27, 2003 08:10 AM

Here's mine: America must destroy its enemies, and be seen doing so.

Posted by: Floyd McWilliams at February 27, 2003 06:58 PM

Hey somebody should start charting the number of people who have changed their minds - or at least gone from undecided to one side or the other as the game unfolds and the facts come out. Gary Farber and Thomas Nephew recently gone into the pro-War camp (with conditions and reservations, of course - who doesn't have those on either side). Josh Marshall has had some pretty hawkish, yet-still-critical-of-the-Bush-approach stuff on his site. In the big media, especially around the time of Powell's presentation, some have made pretty near equivocal but clear statements saying that this thing just might be justified. Even Molly Ivins and the London Observer have written pro-war/(anti-Bush stuff).

Let's start a list of converts - leaving aside the issue of Bush approval. Has anybody seen somebody go in the opposite direction? Interesting question. Tom Friedmann seems to go back and forth with every editorial.

Posted by: Tokyo Taro at February 27, 2003 08:24 PM

Tom Friedman reliably espouses whatever happens to be the conventional wisdom at the moment, so the fact that he's conflicted suggests that the country is as well.

Anyway. The closest I've come to summing up my views on the Iraq war in one post is this.

Posted by: Jesse Walker at February 28, 2003 07:43 PM

See also: Laughing Boy (We Put the Ass in Massachusetts)

While I didn't start the site to talk about the war, I find myself blogging on the subject more and more these days, viz:

"I Came Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Some Ass... I'm All Out of Bubblegum"

"It's Not the Security, It's the Grammar"

"Pentagon Kills, Decorates Canadians"

"Les Pactes des Scoops"

"Gulf War 2 : Do-Overs... The Game!"

"NEWSFLASH: Jesus is Da Bomb"

And lastly, "The Time for Excuse-Making Has Come to an End"


Now that's just my stuff from February & it doesn't include (for the most part) domestic current events posts, media commentary or quirky news. Or my thoughts on national branding, that somebody here might enjoy and/or for which want to beat me about the head and neck.

Consider, from "Great Moments in Imperial Fashion Acumen":

"...and as long as there's still some Muslims out there to scare us, Brand America is probably going to get what it wants.

What does it want?

What Brand America wants is to keep everybody terrified of all the Islamists itching to jump over our white picket fences, and kick in our all-American screen doors, and duct tape our fat babies.

Brand America wants to kick back at the Augusta Country Club, crack a few jokes about big tits, and order shrimp cocktail from polite young negroes while congratulating itself about how the world is a kinder, gentler place in which to be preposterously wealthy."

Love it or hate it, I could use some help (read: links) diluting the ratio of misguided googling pornhounds to blog-wanting eyeballs -- currently holding steady at 10:1 thanks to Google image search associating me with Girls Gone Wild. As long as you're not a fucking whackjob, link me and I'll link you back!


Best,
Isaac Taylor | Laughing Boy

p.s. I'm also the #1 Google for "arabic boy fuck his sister" -- so I demand to be taken seriously, dammit.

Posted by: Isaac in Cambridge at March 1, 2003 05:51 PM

My longest piece leaning pro-war is here. I've had many subsequent entries on the topic, of course; I write about the war arguments with considerable frequency, though -- thank god -- it is not my only topic, any more than politics is, though I write about that a great deal as well.

I think the general tenor of my thinking should be clear to anyone who skims through, say, three weeks worth of postings from me.

Have you read Leon Weiseltier's eloquent piece on why this is a liberal's war, which I've blogged here, along with Dionne's call for a patriotic liberalism?

Matt, you might be interested in this piece I blogged by Walter Kirn on Americans with European friends.

Did you read William Shawcross on why Saddam will never disarm?

Or Paul Berman's immensely eloquent piece on why this is a liberal war?

I think, by the way, that Thomas Friedman has come out clearly for the war, but with great doubt about the Bush Administration's plans for and ability to win the post-war piece. This is a common view, as I more or less share his fears, as do, I see, a great many people somewhere in the at least vaguely pro-war liberal camp. I won't summarize all the arguments for this point of view here, but that, from a liberal POV, the Administration has not demonstrated much consistent honesty or reliability, should not surprise anyone, nor has the effort in Afghanistan impressed, so far, many people.

Posted by: Gary Farber at March 2, 2003 11:10 PM
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Best,
Isaac Taylor | Laughing Boy

p.s. I'm also the #1 Google for "arabic boy fuck his sister" -- so I demand to be taken seriously, dammit.

Posted by: Isaac in Cambridge at March 1, 2003 05:51 PM

My longest piece leaning pro-war is here. I've had many subsequent entries on the topic, of course; I write about the war arguments with considerable frequency, though -- thank god -- it is not my only topic, any more than politics is, though I write about that a great deal as well.

I think the general tenor of my thinking should be clear to anyone who skims through, say, three weeks worth of postings from me.

Have you read Leon Weiseltier's eloquent piece on why this is a liberal's war, which I've blogged here, along with Dionne's call for a patriotic liberalism?

Matt, you might be interested in this piece I blogged by Walter Kirn on Americans with European friends.

Did you read William Shawcross on why Saddam will never disarm?

Or Paul Berman's immensely eloquent piece on why this is a liberal war?

I think, by the way, that Thomas Friedman has come out clearly for the war, but with great doubt about the Bush Administration's plans for and ability to win the post-war piece. This is a common view, as I more or less share his fears, as do, I see, a great many people somewhere in the at least vaguely pro-war liberal camp. I won't summarize all the arguments for this point of view here, but that, from a liberal POV, the Administration has not demonstrated much consistent honesty or reliability, should not surprise anyone, nor has the effort in Afghanistan impressed, so far, many people.

Posted by: Gary Farber at March 2, 2003 11:10 PM
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