January 15, 2003

Catching up on Some Faves: ...

Catching up on Some Faves: Sure, these Dr. Frank excerpts are old, but I hadn't read them until tonight, and they brought me great pleasure. First, on the thirst of British womenfolk:

New Year's [...] is the one night of the year when the average American tries to drink as much as the average Briton does on an ordinary week night. (I gave it my best shot, but, as usual, I couldn't even come close to keeping up with my slender, young British wife. Drinking with an English chick is fun but perilous: it doesn't matter how long you can manage to soldier on-- you still run the risk of being called a "girl's blouse" when you finally have to admit defeat.)
A Brit ex-colleague of mine I had pints with in London last month informed me that a find new catch-all expletive in vogue nowadays is "pants!"

Next, some wisdom about rock music:

If you're serious about returning to the basics of rock and roll, there are really only two legitimate topics: cars and girls. To indulge in other subject matter is to run the risk of Art Rock, which, like unintentional vapidity, is treacherous territory. The Clash aside, most "political" punk is chiefly notable for how easily-parodied it is: anti-Reagan and stuff man, yeah.

Posted by at January 15, 2003 09:47 PM
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A friend of mine, the original Lager Lout (literally), started using the expression "pants" in the early 90s. I am so glad to see that this meme has now spread so far. His other neologism, "toilet," (as in "that was a toilet ball" when bowled an especially bad delivery at cricket [= pitch miles wide in baseball]) has not yet caught on the same way, I find.

Iain

PS Thanks for your, erm, kind word.

Posted by: Iain Murray at January 15, 2003 10:03 PM

Actually, Iain, that same friend of mine informed me of "toilet" as well, if that's any solace....

Posted by: Matt Welch at January 16, 2003 10:53 AM

I hate to say it, but "pants" has been a British pejorative for close to a decade. People I knew used it since about 1980-something, as was then endlessly discussed in the discussion of British slang in rec.arts.sf.fandom in the 1980s, among a thousand other cultural sources.

"When did pants mean 'pants'" we asked...

It made for passing conversation, including on how mainstream US newspapers would catch up to bland boring Brit paper usage a decade later.

It's all very pants. Meanwhile, you still won't read rec.arts.sf.fandom, or Alison Scott, say.

;-)

(Christ, reading this conversation so many years later....)

Posted by: Gary Farber at January 20, 2003 10:26 PM
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some wisdom about rock music:
If you're serious about returning to the basics of rock and roll, there are really only two legitimate topics: cars and girls. To indulge in other subject matter is to run the risk of Art Rock, which, like unJanuary 15, 2003 09:47 PM
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A friend of mine, the original Lager Lout (literally), started using the expression "pants" in the early 90s. I am so glad to see that this meme has now spread so far. His other neologism, "toilet," (as in "that was a toilet ball" when bowled an especially bad delivery at cricket [= pitch miles wide in baseball]) has not yet caught on the same way, I find.

Iain

PS Thanks for your, erm, kind word.

Posted by: Iain Murray at January 15, 2003 10:03 PM

Actually, Iain, that same friend of mine informed me of "toilet" as well, if that's any solace....

Posted by: Matt Welch at January 16, 2003 10:53 AM

I hate to say it, but "pants" has been a British pejorative for close to a decade. People I knew used it since about 1980-something, as was then endlessly discussed in the discussion of British slang in rec.arts.sf.fandom in the 1980s, among a thousand other cultural sources.

"When did pants mean 'pants'" we asked...

It made for passing conversation, including on how mainstream US newspapers would catch up to bland boring Brit paper usage a decade later.

It's all very pants. Meanwhile, you still won't read rec.arts.sf.fandom, or Alison Scott, say.

;-)

(Christ, reading this conversatade. People I knew used it since about 1980-something, as was then endlessly discussed in the discussion of British slang in rec.arts.sf.fandom in the 1980s, among a thousand other cultural sources.

"When did pants mean 'pants'" we asked...

It made for passing conversation, including on how mainstream US newspapers would catch up to bland boring Brit paper usage a decade later.

It's all very pants. Meanwhile, you still won't read rec.arts.sf.fandom, or Alison Scott, say.

;-)

(Christ, reading this conversation so many years later....)

Posted by: Gary Farber at January 20, 2003 10:26 PM
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