Havel, on Euro-Atlantic Tensions: From the same speech quoted in the post below:
Europe should perhaps remind itself, more than it has before, that the two greatest wars in the world's history to date grew on its soil from conflicts between European countries; and, that on both occasions it was the United States -- which had no part in the outbreak of those conflicts -- that eventually made the decisive contribution to the victory of the forces of freedom and justice. And more than that: Who knows whether Western Europe would have been able to hold its ground during the Cold War and withstand the Stalinist, or the Soviet or the Communist, expansion if it had not been backed by the immense potential of strength brought in by the United States, among other things within NATO? And it was, again, the United States that acted as a driving force in the solution -- though apparently belated and imperfect -- of certain European conflicts that emerged after the collapse of the Iron Curtain. Would Europe have been able to resolve them on its own? I am not certain. Looking back at all we have been through during the twentieth century, and witnessing all that is happening today -- with the United States being inevitably involved in some way or to some extent -- Europeans should be more conscious of the roots and the type of the American responsibility and, if necessary, show a certain amount of understanding for the occasional insensitivity, clumsiness or self-importance that may come with this responsibility. I would even go so far as to profess my feeling that every European who blames the United States for the manner of subjugation of the world's economy by its global corporations should realize that it was Europe that gave birth to the entire culture of profit and economic expansion and laid this culture in America's cradle. It is not very wise to blame our own mirror. Actually, is this not an inadmissible ethnic interpretation of the problem? It is no accident that the large corporations are called "supranational"!Posted by at November 20, 2002 02:03 PMOn the other hand, America should realize not only the fact that it owes a substantial part of its greatness and strength to the European roots of its civilization. First and foremost, it should be aware that it might still need Europe very badly indeed. It is not so difficult to imagine that other powers, equally advanced as today's USA, might emerge on various continents of our planet ten or twenty years from now and that a close cultural, political and security link with half a billion Europeans might prove to be very useful for the United States, even if merely for the purpose of maintaining balance. Perhaps all those complicated debates with that fussing gaggle that Europe may occasionally resemble in the eyes of the Americans have meaning after all and are worth pursuing again and again. Where but on European soil, for that matter, can America find a spiritually closer ally or partner in the future?
If we can keep this guy alive another 50 years or so, I might vote for him as the first World President.
-Tim
Posted by: Timothy Roscoe Carter at November 20, 2002 02:28 PMHavel seems to be one of those rare guys who actually live up to their reputation. Everytime I have heard him speak or read something he's written I've been impressed. Especially since he seems to always call it like it is.
Posted by: Scott at November 20, 2002 05:35 PM>>Where but on European soil, for that matter, can America find a spiritually closer ally or partner in the future?
Australia.
Posted by: Pete S. at November 20, 2002 07:20 PMI'd agree fully, if he made it "eastern European soil."
Posted by: Rand Simberg at November 21, 2002 09:09 PM>>Where but on European soil, for that matter, can America find a spiritually closer ally or partner in the future?
Quite a few places, I think. Is there any country that is a worse ally to the US than Germany is?
Posted by: Jeremy at November 22, 2002 12:19 PMYes - France, though at the moment it's hard to split the difference.
Posted by: Clem Snide at November 23, 2002 01:22 AMI think Havel's reference to some other country on some other "continent" points to China. The US should be more actively Asia-friendly; not assuaging China but getting Japan and China and Myanmar in particular to feel comfortable at the same table, so the US doesn't get torn in a decade or two if China becomes right-wing nationalist or vengeance-obsessed. As for eastern Europe, the US has been almost comically popular their at various times, and even an unremarkable man like Shrub finds Lithuanians and Romanians cheering for him. Too bad that they aren't nearly as important as the far east or Syria, Sudan, etc.
Posted by: gregor at November 23, 2002 10:35 AM