">Posted by at September 8, 2002 04:03 AM

I dunno, Matt. I normally like Jarvis fine. But he sounds more than half like a fucking loon in this piece, especially regarding Vincent - at least the parts he quotes. As for Winer, I think he's half wrong, but not all wrong. (I don't care if the US goes through life with a "selfish attitude" - just about every country on earth goes through life with a "selfish attitude.") When Jarvis writes "This is intellectual and moral tyranny," it sounds like projection from here. He's the one hunting for signs of insufficient frowny face.

Posted by: Jim Henley at September 8, 2002 02:14 PM

Why anyone would mention Dave Winer in a sentence with "Great California Thinkers Try To Understand Tragedy If It Does Not Affect Them" is beyond me.

Posted by: Craig Schamp at September 8, 2002 03:43 PM

So when Mr. Jarvis talks about Californians, is he also talking about you? or me? I don't recall delving into selfishness or moral equivalence, but I'm a native so I guess I don't count. Remember "California is a state of mind". Maybe he was talking about Steven den Beste, or Ken Layne.

Ahh, that's it.


Posted by: bob at September 8, 2002 05:40 PM

Is it just me, or does Jarvis sound like a zealot in this one? Sheesh.

Posted by: Ben at September 9, 2002 02:47 PM

My not-so-gentle reminder is that only a minority of humans "on this coast believes that the coming anniversary . . ."
His California bashing, on the basis of a few individual opinions, is not that different than the undeserved bashing America continues to endure. Those who prosper must be bad.

Posted by: Doug Purdie at September 9, 2002 03:51 PM
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